Showing posts with label Classical Conversations. Show all posts
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Friday, May 29, 2015

Why I am Not Returning to Classical Conversations

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If you have been here a while, you might remember my post from last year, Why I Decided to Join Classical Conversations.    I had always had my eye on Classical Conversations, but for some reason it never seemed like it was the right thing for my family to do (for many reasons).  Then last year a new campus opened in my city, so I thought it was a good time to try it.  As I re-read my post from last year, the reasons for joining are still very valid, so why am I not returning?  First let me talk about some things that I really appreciated about my CC community.

The Memory Work


One hour of each community day is dedicated to memory work (1/2 hour to new material and 1/2 hour to reviewing past weeks' material).  Yes, the great volume of memory work comes at you like a tidal wave.  Yes, it is mostly disjointed from each other and from other things you are learning.  Yes, for the most part the kids don't really understand what they saying...BUT I still appreciated it and think it has great merit.  

It truly does provide great pegs for my children to hang their other learning on.  We have referenced different memory work pieces many times this year.  

I also loved seeing how much can truly be retained when it is learned through song (we put a song to most everything).  I learned many, many new things through those songs too!

Next year I plan on continuing with the memory work at home.


Timeline


Classical Conversations created their own timeline.  It is put to song and available in flash card form.  My kids did not master the entire timeline, but they can sing along when the music is playing and will often reference events that they hear about in their daily lives.  I think it is so important for every person to understand the general flow of history and their place in it.  We had been using the Veritas Press timeline song and cards, but we will stick with the CC ones now.  I plan on continuing to use them next year at home.


Presentations


Each week the children give a short presentation in front of their 8 person class.  It was wonderful to see how each student grew in their confidence and ability!  I think it was a great idea for CC to put this as part of the class time and I am going to miss that opportunity.  I am hoping to continue some form of this, maybe with a few homeschool friends getting together, because I think it is a vital skill to learn!


Scripture in Latin


I have been using Song School Latin with my kids for the past couple of years, but I really enjoyed the Latin component of CC as a supplement!  Last year we memorized the vocab of John 1 and then put it together to learn to say the first 7 verses of the chapter.  It was really neat to do this as a group and to get the feel of speaking a long passage in Latin.  I am thankful that we got the opportunity to do this!


The Community 


One big reason that many people like CC is the community aspect of it.  I especially appreciated knowing that a group of other people were doing similar things and that many of us thought the same way on many issues.  It was great to get to know a group of other homeschool moms (only one of which I knew before) and to learn from one another.  A few of them scheduled outside field trips for us, and that helped me to learn about opportunities in my community that I didn't know were there!

From the perspective of my children, they appreciated getting to know new kids too.  They both LOVED going to class each week.  Honestly there really isn't much time available for getting to know one another very well (everything is so jam packed and fast paced), but they enjoyed being around the other kids and always looked forward to play time after lunch.


Classical Conversations' desire to help families grow


Classical Conversations really is a support to homeschooling families.  I particularly appreciated the encouragement that came in the form of helpful emails and at the practicum.  I think the company is finding great topics to talk about and to explore with homeschool families.  

The lady who ran my area practicum last year set up two meeting times during the year for parents in my area to get together and learn about classical principles.  She asked me to speak at both of them, which was a great privilege!  Our first meeting had a focus on ScholĂ© and the second on Assessment.  I appreciated the desire to help inform and encourage community members through these events, and I will miss not being a part of them next year!



So, why am I not returning to Classical Conversations?




As you can see, there are many great aspects of CC.  I am thankful that I was a part of the community last year.  The problem is that I had a nagging feeling through most of the year that I just couldn't shake.

You see, Classical Conversations has a great focus on the trivium.  They understand the grammar, logic, and rhetoric stages and heavily write their material to go along with them.  That sounds great, right? Well, the problem is that the trivium is only one small part of the classical model of education.  

Over the past two years I have been reading and listening to great authors and speakers share what they have rediscovered about classical education.  Two years ago I would have thought that CC was spot on and would have equated classical education with the trivium as well.

Classical education is SO MUCH MORE than the trivium.  (It be fair, I think that CC is discovering this as well, but it is very hard to change things in a large program that has been running the same way for many years.)  Classical education is also about concepts like multum non multa (much not many), scholĂ© (restful learning), festina lente (make haste slowly), cultivating wonder, and more!

I would see emails from Classical Conversations starting to talk about topics like these, but the reality is that the program (in the foundations level at least) is not set up in a way that allows them to take place.  A big focus of the morning is sticking to schedule.  In tutor training, it is drilled into us that each segment of the morning must be a crisp 30 minutes long, and there is no freedom to change anything.  Of course some tutors or campuses may choose to not obey those rules, but I cannot speak for them.

How can students revel in the wonder of learning when there is no time for a student to ask questions and no ability to dive deeply into a topic of interest?

As much as I enjoyed the memory work, the broad scope and fast pace is the opposite of multum non multa.  

Fine Arts and Science are two other segments of the morning.  I enjoyed both of these aspects of the program, but they were not without problems as well.  Often, the children were enjoying their art projects so much that they wanted to continue working on them.  That is a wonderful thing!  But it is not possible in the structure of the CC morning.  Art time must be a crisp 30 minute segment.  

Science experiments, on the other hand, were often a quick demonstration and the tutors were left to try to fill the rest of the half hour.  It is very clear from the guidelines that tutors are not supposed to be teaching, but instead just modeling for the parents, so this left us in a bind.  We were not really supposed to teach what was happening in the experiment, nor were we allowed to add another related experiment.  

In a parent-led co-op, the problem would have easily been solved by giving more time to art and less to science.  Or activities could be chosen differently (longer science experiments and shorter art projects).  This is not possible in CC because when you sign up as an official campus you are agreeing to follow their program and you give up your freedom to make changes like this.

These things are definitely not cause to discredit the program, but part of my reason for choosing to homeschool my children was so that I could do things in ways that I saw fit to most benefit my children.  I don't want to give up that freedom, even for one morning a week.

Another issue for me, personally, is that (like I mentioned before) the class is not actually designed to be for the children.  It is supposed to be teaching the parents (who stay in class) how they can teach at home.  I am sure that some parents benefit from this, but it is just not what I need right now.  If I put out money for a class, I want it to be for my children, not me.  It only adds to the problem that I don't think they are teaching truly classical principals during class time.  They are teaching helpful ways to memorize information, but that is not all that classical education is about.  (I cannot speak for the Essentials and Challenge programs, only Foundations.)

It is hard for me to type this because I really don't want to come across saying that the program is bad.  I think it is very helpful to many families and I appreciate that it is available.  I am honestly not trying to dissuade you from joining your local community, it just isn't the right thing for my family at this time.

I understand that many of my issues stem from the fact that CC is an international company and that in order to make a program that large to work, there needs to be rules and regulations. standards and consistency.  Therefore I am not faulting the company, but personally I need to make the best decision for my family right now. 



So what is the plan for next year?




I have learned a lot this past year, both from my experience at CC and from other sources. So, what do I desire for next year?

I want a truly classical group.


I want a group of like-minded people to dive into the full richness of classical education with.  I want to dive deep together, cultivating virtue, enhancing wonder, and pointing our children toward truth, goodness, and beauty.

I want freedom.


I want the freedom to change things that need to be changed.  I want the ability to stay on one subject for 2 hours if the children are engaged in the wonder of God's creation and there is no pressing reason to stop!  

I want to work together with other moms.


The Body of Christ is so diverse in our gifts and talents.  CC literally left me in a state of exhaustion each week because their model has the tutor doing everything (to show that "You can do it too, mom!")  I appreciate their desire there, but it has made me understand more fully how every person is uniquely gifted and that it is beautiful when we come together and share our strengths!  

I think that meeting days could be a time of joy (instead of stress), with each mom doing what she loves to do, blessing the entire group by doing it.  A few friends and I have been experimenting with that concept this spring and it is working well so far!

So what is the plan?  Well, I'm working on it =)  I am excited to say that it is beginning to come together and I look forward to sharing the details with you soon!



I do not want this to become a "praise CC" or "trash CC" fest, but I would love to discuss this more with you in the comments if you have any questions or thoughts to share.  I am sure that I did not remember all the good things about CC and I am sure that I did not adequately explain my reasons for not continuing, so I am happy to dialogue with you in the comment section if I can help in any way!



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Monday, March 9, 2015

Memorizing John 1 in Latin - Helpful Resources

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My children and I have been memorizing John 1:1-7 in both English and Latin as part of our learning this year.  The English part was not so hard, but Latin is a bit more of a challenge!  I am so impressed at how well my children have picked up on it, and it is so neat to hear them speaking in Latin.

We have found a few resources to be helpful in our learning and I wanted to share them with you.


Learning John 1 Through Song


Learning through song is always so helpful.  Our knowledge shouldn't stay in song form, but it is very effective for initially memorizing information.

Here is the song that we have used to learn John 1.  There are others out there, so search on youtube or Google if you don't like this tune.




John 1 Scripture Folder


Pam (from ED Snapshots) has created a great resource for helping kids to learn John 1:1-7 in Latin.  This file folder puzzle has 3 different levels for your child to practice what they have learned.  Children review by putting the words from the verse in the right order.  I love the version where they sit the words into the right sized boxes.  It is just enough help to encourage them on their way.

My kids did this last week and it was a good challenge.  My favorite part was hearing them sing the song over and over to themselves in order to figure out which word to look for next.  My son only did a few lines of the puzzle, but he must have sung the son 20 times!  What great practice!

If you are learning John 1 like we are, make sure to check out this John 1 Scripture Folder.


Listening to a Beautiful Presentation


This is a video of from Classical Academic Press of Christopher Perrin reading the whole chapter of John 1 in Latin.  It is a beautiful presentation.  Take a minute to listen.  You'll be glad you did!


Are you learning John 1 in Latin?  

What resources have you found helpful?

Do you have any memorization tips to share?




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Monday, August 4, 2014

Cycle 3 Teaching Plan from Solagratiamom - GIVEAWAY!

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I've got a neat resource to share with you today!  It is designed specifically to enhance a Classical Conversations (Foundations) based curriculum, but would be great for anyone wanting to save some time finding materials to use at home.

So what is it?  Colleen, from Sola Gratia Mom, has gathered 24 week's worth of material to make your work at home easier.  The Teaching Plan gives links to resources all across the web that will enhance each of the 7 subjects that Classical Conversations covers.  It gives ideas to fill two days a week, plus extra ideas for a third day, plus weekly match-ups for Draw Write Now, Lyrical Life Science, Science Cards, Acts & Facts Cards, and Story of the World.

It covers 3 days a week because the idea is that you would be in your Classical conversations community one day and then have the option of doing Wonderful Wednesdays (I'll share about that below) for another day.

Really, what this is a huge time-saver!  All the work is done for you, all you have to do is look at the sheet for the week, click a few links, and you have what you need.


Wonderful Wednesdays


The other part of this is detailed instructions on how to do Wonderful Wednesdays in your home or with a group of friends.  If you are not familiar with Wonderful Wednesdays, you have to visit Sola Gratia Mom.  You will be inspired!  Colleen takes what was learned that week in Classical Conversations and makes it super fun!  For each week there is a plan for a science experiment, some kind of project or activity, dress-up ideas, and a themed snack.  When I read Coleen's blog, it always makes me wish that I was there partaking in all the fun!  Well, now I have all the information I need to have my own Wonderful Wednesdays!  (Of course, you could do it on any day of the week, or even spread it out over the week...whatever works for your family.)

What I love is that there are jut so many ideas here, all on topic, and all in one place.  No more spending hours searching for idea online =)


Who Will Love the Cycle 3 Teaching Plan?


If you do not have a ton of time (or energy or desire) to gather extras to supplement your CC studies, you will love the Cycle 3 Teaching Plan!

If you desire to make Classical Conversations a full curriculum, instead of just a once-a-week experience, you will love the Cycle 3 Teaching Plan!

If you enjoy supplementing your school days with resources on the computer (videos, reading info from websites, looking at pictures about what you are studying, etc.), you will love the Cycle 3 Teaching Plan!

If you desire to make a deeper connections with the families in your CC group, you will love the Wonderful Wednesday part of the bundle!


If you are still wondering if this is right for you, visit Sola Gratia Mom to read straight from Colleen what her vision was for creating these plans and even more details (and a sample!) about what is in them.



Teaching Plan Giveaway and Discount Code


Now for the part you've all been waiting for!  =)  I have two special opportunities for you today.  Colleen has given me a discount just for readers here at Living and Learning at Home!  You can use the code LIVING to get $9.95 off of your Teaching Plan bundle.  What is included in the bundle?


Normally this all costs $29.95, but this week you can save $9.95 with the code: LIVING (code good through Monday, August 11th)

Or you can enter to win one of two copies!  Of course, if you buy a bundle this week and end up winning the giveaway, Colleen will refund your money, so buy with confidence!

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Thursday, July 17, 2014

Get Ready for Cycle 3 - Classical Conversations Pinterests Boards

This post is for anyone who is getting ready to study American history & geography, anatomy, chemistry, or fine arts.  Of course this post is also for anyone who will be using Classical Conversations during cycle 3.  I shared yesterday that my family has decided to join CC for next year and I shared that so this one wouldn't be out of the blue =)


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I have been researching and planning for next year (like any good homeschool mom ;) and thought I would share some inspiration with all of you!  Here are a bunch of other people's Pinterest boards that have awesome ideas for all the subjects I mentioned.  First up are some that are Classical Conversations specific, then you'll see ones broken down by subject, and finally a few boards on CC tutor tips.

Click on each picture or name to check out the Pinterest board.  Don't forget to follow the boards for continued inspiration!   Enjoy!

(Warning: Remember that your children need you today.  Don't get sucked into the Pinterest vortex for too long at any one time =)


Cycle 3 Pinterest Boards


Mary from Homegrown Learners - CC Cycle 3


Jody from Everyday Beautiful - Classical Conversations Cycle 3


Colleen from Sola Gratia Mom - Cycle 3


Melanie from Psyco with 6's board - CC Cycle 3


American History


Suzette from Joy of Homemaking - Classical Conversations (Cycle 3 American History)




Ticia from Adventures in Mommydom - U.S. History


U.S. Geography


Ticia from Adventures in Mommydom - Geography State Studies




Anatomy & Chemistry




Ticia from Adventures in Mommydom - Anatomy


Ticia from Adventures in Mommydom - Things That Go Boom


Brandy from Half a Hundred Acre Wood - CC Cycle 3 Science


Classical Conversations Fine Arts



Classical Conversations Tutor Ideas








Hope these were helpful!  I know I'm going to be pouring over these boards for the next month or so.  Do you have Pinterest boards on any of these subjects?  Feel free to leave a link in the comments, I'd love to take a look!

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Wednesday, July 16, 2014

Why I Decided to Join Classical Conversations


I have been in love with the classical model of homeschooling for a long time...like before I even had kids =)  Many years ago, I remember reading about a program called Classical Conversations, but there were no communities near me and my kids were too little anyways.  Fast forward a few years and now there are handful of Classical Conversations communities within a half hour or so of me and both my kids are old enough for the program.  So, it would make sense that I would join, right?  Well, it still took me a while to come to that conclusion.
 
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Why I Originally Decided Against Classical Conversations


My son will be 6 for the coming school year, so we could have done Classical Conversations the last two years, but didn't.  Honestly, I have seriously considered joining probably about 6 times before now, but something always held me back.  I am the type of person who needs to completely research and understand something before making a decision.  Here are some of the things that were holding me back:

  • I was using and loving Veritas Press history. I didn't want to give it up, but it didn't make sense to add another history timeline and song to our repertoire.

  • Classical Conversations goes through history on a 3 year cycle, which is faster that I would prefer.

  • I like to control what we learn, so the idea of someone else's schedule didn't appeal to me.

  • The cost.  If CC was going to just be an add-on, I really couldn't justify the price.

  • I would have had to drive a half hour to get to a campus.  That's not too bad, but was not enticing.

  • We school year round and I wanted to be free to take breaks when I wanted, not be tied down to CC's schedule.


Why Now is the Time for My Family to try Classical Conversations


So many of you are a part of Classical Conversations communities, so I am reminded of the program frequently.  Summer came and (of course) I started thinking about CC again =)  For some reason, it just clicked this time.  Some things have changed and some of my thinking has changed.  Here is what was going through my head.

  • I still love Veritas Press, and am sad to leave it, but I don't feel as tied to it as I once did.  I even like how the CC cards focus on more of the world and are completely integrated.

  • I took some time to evaluate what was going well in our school from last year.  I realized that math and English were two subjects that we were doing really well.  Those are the two subjects you have to add on to your CC work.

  • My son loves learning history and science, but I wasn't giving it as much time as I should have been.  He learns well from reading independently, so I think it will work well for him to get a bunch of library books on the topics from our memory sentences and continue his learning in the week. (Something off my plate a bit.)

  • I still love to plan, but am also feeling overwhelmed lately, so I am looking forward to part of our curriculum being planned for me now.

  • There is a new campus opening this year in my city! (And I have a dear friend who will be there =)

  • I had already decided to break next year into trimesters, so the two 12 week CC sessions fit in perfectly.  I will just add a 12 week summer session, to complete the 'tri' in trimesters.

  • I found myself wishing that there were people around my area that I could get together with who were also using the Veritas Press curriculum.  People to have fun celebrations with, people who understand classical education, people who are studying the same thing we are.  I must be pretty hard headed, but I finally realized that is exactly what CC is, I just have to switch my timeline cards =)

So, there you have it!  I have officially decided to be a part of my local Classical Conversations community.  I am looking forward to the presentations, friendships, and memory work.  I am looking forward to moving on to American History.  My kids are already looking forward to learning the tin whistle =)  Most of all I'm looking forward to the community.

I went to a practicum last week and learned pretty much everything I need to know.  I still have a few reservations, but I am ready to give it a shot!  Who knows if this will be a long term schooling change, or if it will just be a one year experiment, but either way I am excited to see what this year will hold!

Are you a part of a CC community?  Any tips or thoughts to share?



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