Friday, August 30, 2013

Classical Mamas Read - The Well Trained Mind Ch. 17-18

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Welcome back to Classical Mamas Read!  I'm excited to be back here with you today to discuss chapters 17 and 18 of The Well Trained MindIf you want to take a look back at our previous discussions, click the picture above to take you to a list of each chapter we have talked about.

Today we are going to be talking about Logic stage English and Science.  While I highlight the main points in the chapters, and bring up questions as well as things that are interesting to me, I can't recommend to you enough to get the book for yourself.  It is over 800 pages and is filled with details and recommendations that I cannot even begin to touch on here!

Ch. 17 - Thinking Straight: Spelling, Grammar, Reading, and Writing (logic stage)


  • In the logic stage, students shift from simply absorbing facts to having to analyze them.

  • Similarly, instead of just memorizing the rules, they will start to see how language fits together.

Grammar Stage -----> Logic Stage

Spelling -----> Word Study
Grammar -----> How parts of speech are put together
Reading -----> The why and the how of the story
Writing -----> Longer writing, essays, and good stories

  • Spelling
    •  Begin teaching them the roots of words.

  • Grammar
    • Learn to diagram
Diagramming prevents the child from simply parroting back rules that she doesn't fully understand.   (pg. 340)

The study of grammar has as its goal the creation of a clear, persuasive, forceful, fully equipped speaker and writer.   (pg. 340)

What grammar resources and curriculum do you use to teach your logic stage student?

  • Align your students extra reading with what they are learning in history.

    • Create narration pages and book reports.
    •  Increase the reading of primary sources.
    • Read the book yourself so you can discuss it with your child.

  • Have your child memorize a few poems or passages from their reading each year.

Do you use a separate writing program?  If so, what is it?

Ch. 18 - Making Deductions: Science (logic stage)

  • The logic student takes their grammar stage science discoveries to the next level.

{Your goal in the logic stage} is to teach the young student to think critically about doing science. (pg. 383)

  • You will guide your child in the scientific method:
    1.  State the question.
    2. Form a hypothesis.
    3. Test the hypothesis through experimentation.
    4. Draw conclusions.

  • After the experiment, your child should record their findings and then read more about them.

  • They recommend spending an hour and a half on science two days a week.

    • Day 1: Reading about the topic, experimentation, and recording the results.
    • Day 2: Making a report, recording dates, and making a sketch.

  • They recommend keeping all of this info in a notebook (look in the book for much more detail about this). 

  •  Don't forget to take field trips!

Do you follow a certain curriculum for science?


If you don't have the book already, you can look for it at your library or get it on amazon. (The Well Trained Mind)

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I think I'm going to keep this link-up ongoing since there aren't going to be a huge number of posts and then anyone new will be able to be encouraged by the other book reading ideas and discussions.  If the number of posts gets too large, I will fix it.

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